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of medicare and medicaid. >> there's a right way to do this and there's a wrong way to do it. but at the end of the day, nancy what's got to happen is whoever's right or wrong here we've got to get the economy going again. >> reporter: chambliss and virginia democrat mark warner head up the senate's gang of eight-- four democrats and four remembers who have worked for two and a half years to find a bipartisan approach to debt reduction. do you think your democratic colleagues are going to be willing to entertain discussion of social security reform, medicare reform as part of this deal? >> listen, i think anyone that looks at our entitlements, medicare, social security, other programs, they're great programs. but the math just doesn't work anymore. not because the programs are bad but because thank goodness we're living a lot longer than we were when these programs were established. >> reporter: republicans may be more open now to raising tax revenue, but that doesn't mean they support raising tax rates for the wealthy. they support instead, scott, limiting tax deductions for the rich. >> pe
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? medicare, medicaid carefully, these are chief drivers of our deficit. we made a lot of progress with obama care and there's other spending we have to cut. >> hold on a second. i think we all know what the chief drivers of our deficit are and have been. our projected deficit over the next seven years is driven mostly by the wars in iraq and afghanistan and the bush tax cuts. entitlement programs don't even compete with these costs. plouffe went on to pin the problem largely on republicans who are not flexible on higher tax rates, but he also said this. >> and so where i think the big bottleneck right now is republicans in congress on revenue and how much and where does it come from. democrats are also going to have to step up here and do some tough things. and you know, the notion that somehow that these deficits and our debt are not a threat to our national security and our economic future is something i could not disagree with more strongly, as does the president. there are some, maybe not so much in our party but some commentators on the left that suggest that we shouldn't deal with this
for us to talk abo about. we cannot stand by the sidelines in denial untouched, unamended, medicare is going to run out of money in 12 years. that is scary. >> but it's what durbin didn't say that was striking. in his prepared remarks durbin was going to say the following. quote, progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of social security, medicare and medicaid, but those conversations should not be part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. durbin never said those remarks. he left that out. he later said he stood by those comments, and he did argue that medicare shouldn't be part of any up front down payment on the debt but part of the next year's long longer term negotiation. now while the short term talk to republicans may be tough, the longer term message to liberals is clear. entitlements in some form or fashion will need to be on the table. that means medicare. and a new "washington post"/abc poll shows just how politically tough making any changes to medicare will be. across party lines respondents said they are opposed to increasing
taxes. is it equally difficult to get democrats to agree to touch medicare? >> not when you have the president say he's going to do it. he said it during the grand bargain that didn't become too grand or a bargain, but he talked about entitlement reform and he's still talking about entitlement reform. he will do something in that area, as long as he can hammer those guys over $250,000. and make them pay more taxes. how $250,000 got to the point where that's the, quote, middle class is beyond my comprehens n comprehension. 100 would have been more appropriate for more real live people. he's going to get that. hopefully he can do it without doing rate increases, which are going to cost. anybody who is, quote, rich shouldn't mind paying more taxes. i don't understand that at all. and i don't understand that somebody, if you let them earn more money is going to use it to hire people. they may likely buy another kind of rig or a toy or something like that. i don't know. but all i know is one thing, you can't cut -- you can't cut spending away out of this hole, you can't tax your way
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security and medicare, make some defense cuts if you have to but we'd rather just see the rich get taxed and the near rich get taxed if we have to do that. >> the numbers do not add up, the left is being fundamentally dishonest. they are saying you don't have to cut social security or medicare or medicaid to get the deficit down, all you've got to do is tax the rich some more. they are recklessly suggesting that we go deeper and deeper and deeper into debt heading towards bankruptcy. the numbers, megyn are stunning. we have an unfunded liability for medicare of $42 trillion. an unfunded liability for social security of $20 trillion. and a further 20 trillion for unfunded pensions for federal employees, that adds up to $86 trillion which are committed to pay in the future and the money we do not have. therefore, you cannot just tax the rich to get rid of the deficit. you simply can't do that. the numbers don't add up. megyn: chris, what do you make of this, the president is now going to go out on what looks like sort of like a campaign stop on friday to pennsylvania. he already had this m
something out, how to avoid taxes, and reduce spending on medicare. but it is not yet clear when the lawmakers and the president will meet next. and even if some progress is made this week, a final deal could still be a long way off. >> we rarely see the hill and the white house make decisions early. they tend to do better when they have a deadline. so i -- i would be pleasantly surprised to see it -- a deal emerge earlier than the end of the year, but we'll see. >> reporter: and martin, even though there is not another meeting between the president and lawmakers on the president's schedule, that could certainly change. we know that senate majority leader reid said they hope to have another meeting with the president this week. >> athena jones, thank you, at the white house. >>> and president obama went christmas shopping today. the president and his daughters shopped at an independent store in virginia. the obamas are participating in the third annual event, the white house bought 15 books. >>> and cyber deals, no longer just for monday. they participated in the deals before bla
from medicare, if they don't get what they want let the country go over the cliff, let the car jump off the cliff. then they will be in a stronger position to negotiate for the tax increases that they want on the other side. this can't be good news for the president who desperately needs to have a deal done so that he does not see the country plunged into fresh recession just as he is sworn into office. megyn: but now there are some who are predicting okay, yes even though this would be calamitous, it wouldn't be that calamitous if we got into january, it happened but only happened for a few weeks. then they struck a deal. the thinking of these democrats, reportedly, chris, the republicans are going to be much more likely to strike a deal if the tax hikes have automatically taken place on january 1, than then can swoop in as saviors who lower tax rates on everybody after they secretly just hiked them? we won't understand what just happened. >> well, there is some of that that the, what the republicans would be able to do thin would be, instead of having to ever vote for a tax increase o
they shouldn't do the happy dance just yet. republicans will want payback, as in medicare, medicaid and social security. so for all of you who want tax hikes for the wealthy, what are you willing to give up in return? on social security? raising the retirement age to 70? on medicare, a total revamp is in instead of the government paying your medicare bills, you pay them with help from the government? you tell me. talk back question this morning, what should republicans expect in return for new taxes? facebook.com/carolcnn. facebook.com/carolcnn. your comments later this hour. >>> more republican lawmakers -- well, as i just said, they're willing to break that no new tax pledge. we'll talk about that with our political panel, next. we use this board to compare car insurance rates side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enough. a smarter way to shop around. now that's progressive. call or click today. [ gruntin
in the summer and say, don't bring in your healthcare reform stuff, don't bring in your medicare, don't bring in social security, focus exclusively on the question of whether or not you will raise taxes in order to offset these automatic cuts. the white house is trying to portray this as a one-for-one deal that they are going to renegotiate what they already negotiated in august. they say if republicans want less spending cuts on the defense side they better be willing to give up on the tax side and have tax increases. i think they are perfectly willing as it stands now to take it off the cliff and let the taxes go into effect, because if the republicans won't give them what they want on a tax rate increase for top earners they think they will get them later once people are outraged that their taxes went up. megyn: but, to not offer any spending cuts, what would be the republican incentive to agree to raising taxes on the wealthy if they don't get anything in return? >> well, the incentive would be from the president's point of view, is that everybody's taxes will go up anyway and once you ge
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within the medicare program, move away from a fee for service system which does lead to higher costs, but we would not take -- we would not simply take those rising costs and put them on the backs of seniors as the republican plan would. >> yes or no, do you support raising the retirement age? >> no, i do not support raising the retirement age. as i said, i think the best approach to dealing with this is to build on the progress that we made in the affordable care act which is already showing signs of slowly bending the cost curve in health care. we need to do more, but we shouldn't do it by simply transferring the risks and costs onto the backs of seniors and that's the very different approach that we have taken from our republican colleagues. >> a growing group of liberal fiscal cliff jumpers if you will as they're being called, they seem to be willing to risk everything, jump off the cliff if social safety nets face deep cuts while tax rates stay low for the wealthy. do you think that is smart politics or could it backfire against democrats? >> i think what the president has said
to raise the retirement age of medicare, might fold parts of medicare into one, so you can get efficiencies. that will be on the table. there's going to be cuts. and i don't think it's a mystery about how big the tax increase is going to be. john boehner says 800 billion, the president puts down a $1.6 trillion marker. doesn't take einstein to figure out you get $1.2 trillion. to me, that's going to be the size of the tax increase. you have warren buffett on later today. i think his op-ed in the "new york times" is one of three live options for how you get there. a flat minimum tax for rich people or some cap on deductions, which i think is going to becoming increasingly appealing to lawmakers as they try to solve this or flat out increasing the rates, which is a non-starter for a lot of republicans. i think you're going to see a slightly higher rate with some kind of cap on deductions or alternative minimum tax for rich people. >> a combination of those two. we've got a lot more to talk about with you. monday night football highlights the eagles showing they don't need michael vick to lose
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medicare spending. so we're not close to actually having those kind of talks yet. what we have right now is a pr phase, a public relations phase, where both sides are trying to work the business community or work main street behind their side of the argument. >> and it does seem that we have a split not just about what needs to get done or how we get to this deal, dana, but about the urgency of what would happen if we didn't come to a deal. the white house put out that 14-page report on monday and had all these frightening details about what happens to the economy if we go off the fiscal cliff, a key point they say consumer spending would take a $200 billion hit next year. is there a growing sense, though, dana, that going off the cliff would be preferable to caving on issues that are important frankly to both sides? >> certainly the extremes on both sides are saying that it may be preferable. it is entirely possible that that's what will happen. sort of like those discussions of can we survive, you know, the nuclear winter. it is -- the good news is that a deal is fairly obvious what ne
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dick durbin says medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations, but insist social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things, and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing willingness for reform -- >> can we talk about that for a second? >> i don't want to repeat what you said. >> it's bull hockey. >> that's not what you said. >> this whole thing has been a complete farce for years. there's no trust fund. they raided that a long time ago. but the bigger point, i will because you know what? my heart has grown like the grinch's since thanksgiving. i have so much to be thankful for. >> it's been growing ever since election day, basically. >> so i'm going to be kind. first of all, senator durbin deserves respect on this front because he
look at the spending curves of social security and medicare and medicaid and see that they are going towards bankruptcy. social security for example right now congress has for so long been stealing money from the social security fund. we are years away from that flipping so that your taxes to pay social security. >> let me jump in. i understand that argument as well in terms of having the entitlement programs basically bankrupt the system. not saying the gop wants to cut it across the board they want to limit it. talk to the people, though, we start to hear social security going out the window and some of the entitlement programs going by the wayside. makes people nervous. talk to people in terms of understanding not really a way to try to panic but certainly a p compromise. >> i would argue it is time to panic. they need to do something drastic. every moment you wait to do something it will be harder to do something when it comes time to do something. politicians are scared of their own shadows very often which is why we are in the problem we are in. that's why they have to address
, but what counts is what he's willing to put on the table and so far, he hasn't put medicare and social security, saving and preserving those entitlement programs on the table. i believe they have to be, because if we're going to preserve those for future generations, we need to do something meaningful on those. the problem is, erin, if we just do cuts in temporary spending, those can easily be undone. we know there's been a lot of promises made in exchange for tax increases and it never comes to pass when it comes to spending cuts. >> there was a "washington post" poll which said raise taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year, 60% support it. when you ask about raising medicare coverage from 65 to 57, most people oppose that. so do you have the courage to say, we have to raise retirement age. raising taxes on the wealthy is easy. >> it is hard to do and you can't do it on a partisan basis. this election did not produce a mandate for president obama or our democratic friends, we have got exactly the same thing we had before the election which is divided government. >> he has more people in
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and not touch medicare or medicaid? it is all part of the deal. >> gretchen: once you get people back to the table. it is it like a marriage, marriages don't work when one party said i will not budge on anything. >> brian: i hope my wife is listening. >> steve: we are in the let's make a deal stage. both sides want to appear flexibility when it comes to doing something. we aapparently the president of the united states. the week after thanksgiving nothing is scheduled. but we understand that the top aides are working together to do something. who is leading the charge for the white house? tim geithner. it is interesting, in the beginning, during the confirmation it was revealed he did not file taxes properly and people say is he qualified to be the treasury of the secretary. according to the wall street journal. they work with him and like him. and jack lu who did it last time blew it. >> gretchen: why not have bowles-simpson come back. why do we spend more time. rephrase that. why are we wasting more time trying to come together on a deal when the bowles-simpson. >> brian: they didn'
. >> dick durbin says when you're talking about entitlement reform or cuts in spending for medicare, medicaid for example, he says that's too complicated now. listen to what he said this morning. >> when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in 12 years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. >> can you defer medicare for example -- medicare reform until after you get a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> well, if we do that, wolf, i think what you have to do is also defer the issue of taxes. i think you extend tax rates some time into the foreseeable future whether that's six months or a year and allow us to go through the process where we can deal with entitlement reform and tax reform in regular order. i don't see republicans supporting something up here that deals with taxes that doesn't have entitlement reform incorporated into that. so i think right now we're a little bit of a standoff, but the way to solve this would be of course to extend the existing tax rates which is by the way something
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: senator graham says age adjustment and means testing for medicare and social security is a reasonable thing. but illinois democratic senator dick durbin doesn't want to touch social security. he thinks the new revenue should come from an increase on the tax rates of top earners, which is currently 35%. >> let the rates go up to 39. let us also take a look at the deductions. let's make sure that revenue is an integral part of deficit reduction. from my side of the table, bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security, set aside, doesn't add to the deficit. when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program, but give it solvency for more and more years. >> reporter: a source with engine of knowledge -- with knowledge of the negotiation says there is no date set in stone for the next meeting among the principle negotiate othe timing will depend on the progress of staff member, in the next few days. but we should not be surprised if they get together, sthiem week. shannon. >> shannon: we wish them much luck. thank you. our worst-case scenario, th
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alteration and the eligibility age for medicare. now, this is budget talk. but one of the things that has been negotiated is gradually increasing the age to 67. that would save around $250 billion over ten years, so that's a significant concession. >> although gradually is a problem. this is like you know, the french. they take ten years. you've got to do it right away. >> that's there and there's the political reality. you know the old washington joke. a billion here, a billion there, then you're talking money. >> what about social security? >> talk about changing the benefit formula. change cpi. basically, what folks say is this could be a more accurate measure of inflation and if you put that in place, you could save $223 billion. if you raise the retirement age to 69 by 2075, it would affect toddlers today, no one else. >> you know what, toddlers, i'm going to move it to 59 today. >> this has democrats willing to take on their own special interests. it's a sense of where the argument could go. and neither democrats nor republicans want to be the ones to raise it. they're going to have
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don't need to do anything with it now. maybe we can if i had al little bit with medicare but these are points very difficult -- >> if you take medicare and medicaid off the table, then you got to do it three ways. you got to have entitlement reform, increased revenues, it seems and almost everybody says this and economic growth. >> correct. exactly right. you country have a deal if you don't have medicare at least on the table and probably medicare and social security. and frankly, you're not going to get a deal on those this year anyway. the sometime too short. this has to be something that comes around next year. >> what's wrong with the idea that wealthy beneficiaries of medicare, i am seven years away from taking it. >> don't look like it. >> thank you, man. we shouldn't have to pay more. shouldn't i? >> i think there's some truth to it that part a of medicare, the catastrophic coverage is free, if you will. we pay for it during our lives and don't pay anymore after we are retired. simpson boles suggested that, have wealthy people pay for some of that coverage? >> mak
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medicare and social security. as well as to balance the budget in a way that protects the middle class and the working poor and that's what i'm looking forward to do with my colleagues. >> of course, there's -- there are a lot of trade-offs to be made and compromises to be made. i may be among the first to congratulate you. >> thank you. >> congratulations to both of you. what are you willing to commit to if you get the tax cuts the president and party is demanding? >> sure. well, we have got to reach across the aisle and with the fiscal cliff, both sides have to put everything on the table and do what's best for all mitt romneys and that's not just me talking about it. that's what i heard continually from the people in my district and that's a big reason of why we won the race. my way or the highway doesn't work in politics. we have to be serious about getting our country back on the right track. >> congressman, you're part of a changing demographic. the house democratic caucus is no longer majority white male. women and minorities and people such as yourself now are the majority of t
the eligibility age for medicare. >> i want entitlement reforms. republicans put revenue on the table, democrats always promise to cut spending. i'm looking for more revenue for entitlement reform before the end of the year. >> reporter: so far democrats sound lex flexible. >> we've got to make sure there is seamless coverage of afordable health coverage for every american. my concern about raising the retirement age gaps in coverage or coverage that's way too expensive for seniors to purchase. >> reporter: there are many potential cliffs but higher taxes for structural changes for medicaid and medicare may be abong the biggest. bob corker argued for both warning everyone against punting this until next year or accepting phony savings that don't solve or at least address the underlying deficit and structural debt problems. charlie and norah? >> let me add my voice, congratulations you on this day enharnting one of the big jobs in journalism. they're big shoes and i'm looking at those you have to fill. >> you'll be just fine. >> reporter: first day, all righ
on the left on social security or medicare, then you get people getting nervous. the markets get service, the markets sell off, we have a problem. if we go into january and there's the basic broad outlines of a deal that we can retroactively fix some of these tax rates, extend unemployment benefits, if that is the general tenor of things going into december we'll be fine and we'll get a deal in january and go ahead. but if it's more of the same politics as usual, you're going to see spending get cut down. people are going to get nervous and businesses are concerned about the long-term outlook. >> let me bring back eamon on that point. do the markets care when you see the ceos and some of the wealthier people, including warren buffett today in the "times" saying, look, we have got to raise revenues by raising some taxes on wealthy individuals. we saw that from both buffet and radner, very prom negligent well-known financiers but ultimately endorsing what sounds like the obama position. do the markets look to those steps the way we do in politics and say this is more likely to get done or
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touch the third rail, he hugged it. not only did he advocate a serious medicare reform agenda he did something everyone said he shouldn't do including the public establishment, pick paul ryan. everyone was saying, you know, we're going to try to attach the ryan budget to mitt romney and then the democrats were thrilled. steve israel, the chairman of the dccc put out a fund-raising e-mail saying that paul ryan. they planned -- >> however good you think that is, it didn't work. what did he -- >> let me address that. he actually won the seniors vote. i think he has opened up the possibility both for president obama and congressional republicans, and you saw this in this poll that came out, center left organization, talking about people are open on entitlement reform in a way they haven't been in the past and i think romney/ryan broke through a little bit on that. other policy areas. look, republicans have to do a better job over the next couple years, particularly the republican think tank community, has to do a better job of thinking through about how to talk about middle class economi
and medicare, particularly in making sure that they are sound for the future. so that's lindsey's position. and he has talked about accepting revenue to accomplish that goal. >> republicans continue saying they don't want to increase tax rates arguing that will hurt job growth. democrats say the middle class could be spared from a tax increase now. >> however as we continue to negotiate a responsible path forward i remind everyone within the sound of my voice of one fact. this congress is where one vote away from avoiding the fiscal cliff for middle class families and small businesses. >> republicans point to a study done by the winston group which is a republic research firm which says 65% of americans back tax reform and spending cuts over raising taxes, shep. >> shepard: we are hearing now that house republicans are planning to meet with ceos up on the hill a day after tomorrow. >> top ceos and top fiscal experts two weeks after president obama essentially did the same thing. the ceos of etna inc., honey well international and irskin bowles are amongst those scheduled to attend. half th
yes. how can the republicans sell them a philosophy of don't help the poor cut back medicare and cut back social security. those groups don't believe in that -- >> i'm not sure -- i think you're generalized african-americans have a history of the federal government on civil rights and winning the civil war, going back that far with lincoln believing in the federal government. latinos, people from latin countries have a great suspicion of government. >> the polli showses that latinos are actually polling closer to african-americans on that issue. ms in the campaign it wasn't just immigration on economic issues latinos are polling like african-americans. >> they did in this campaign, joy, but the republicans have a lot of opportunities to get back into this and democrats should not be cocky about this with some refashioning they can appeal to people's self-reliance. >> because they have to, john you're making you do it because you have to. politicians who have any survivalrn to in new york great support from minorities and people like that who just
to entitlements, medicare and social security. they are also going to address spending in ways that democrats are not going to be happy about. so everybody is going to have to sort of cave here, it would seem. stuart: there has to be compromise on the other side as well as republicans on tax. maybe the democrats have to compromise on entitlement reform at some point. they haven't yet. sandra: grover norquist has already come out and said nobody is caving here, if they do, it is just a trap the republicans are falling into. and this is going to be horrible for republicans, especially in the next election. liz: he also pointed out that george h.w. bush won gulf war one and then really lost reelection. the berlin wall fell under george hw and then lost reelection because he broke read my lips. norquist says in the republican brand you don't raise taxes. as for entitlement reform, democrats, many says we don't need entitlement reform, we want entitlements to be solvent, that's the issue there. stuart: the president will be on the road this week. i don't doubt for one moment he will keep pushing h
. entitlement reform is a stumbling block. democrats don't want deep cuts to medicaid, medicare and social security. republicans see no other choice. >> the reason we are having these negotiations is because washington democrats have spent money without any care for the cost or the future. and refuse to do anything to protect long-term spending programs like medicare, a failure that's among the biggest drivers of our debt. >> one out of three people in this country are going to rely on medicare and medicaid for their health insurance. so we need to find ways to reserve these programs. >> senator durbin is suggesting the debate over the entitlement programs should be waged after the new year once the fiscal cliff issue has been settled. >>> six minutes past the hour, new storms rolling into the northwest this morning. and that could cause dangerous flooding. alexandra steele is live in atlanta for us. what's going on? >> hey, good morning to you guys. we've got one storm that's gone and one storm that's a massive storm incoming. so let's start with this, all you guys in new york city had sn
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